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"More havoc and destruction from the HARPIES in WA DCP - Natalie MacDonald, Lisa Devine and Kristina Fraser"

Hi All,

My first post, I too have had a bad experience with what you call DOCS, here in Western Australia they are called Department of Child Protection (D.C.P), it has been 7 months since they decided to start on me and the misery and stress is still going on today, I have had 3 of these harpies after me so here is my story.

Please take note that I have carefully edited out the children’s names for their own protection, I have 3 children but they do not live with me now.

To begin with I am or was a single parent, in mid May of 2009 my daughter decided to come and live with me, my daughter also asked if a friend could also come and live with us as the friend was having issues at home, I said it would be ok providing it was ok with the friends mother, to which it was, at this point I was made aware that the friend was a DCP client, so I went to the local DCP office to have a discussion with Lisa Devine about my options by way of seeking help for the friend, to which I was told that they cant give out details, however, I never asked for details of the friend, then this harpy said to me, that this is a big ask of you to take on a child you do not know as well as your own biological child, are you sure you can handle 2 14yo, I said that I will try, by treating them the same without any favouritism, the conversation ended ok enough and I left their cave.

In early June 2009, I picked up both my daughter and her friend from the local bus terminal, got them settled in and enrolled at the local high school, all was going well, no issues nor problems at all, just like a normal family, both girls made friends and were quite happy.

In early August 2009, this is where my nightmare began, my daughter decided on having a 15th birthday party and wanted to have friends attend, which I said ok; the party went well, no fights or screaming, quite a sedate party, then 2 days later, the misery began, I took them 2 to school as I did since they arrived all ok, about lunchtime, I got a SMS from my daughter asking if her friend came home as my daughter couldn’t find her friend, I replied that her friend did not come home, I went to pick up the 2 from school at 3pm, and was then accosted by a male (Brent Montgomery) who was asking me about the party.

I said the party was ok why? He then said well we want to come and collect friends belongings from you, again, I asked why and what was going on, the male just turned and walked away, my daughter then appeared and was visibly upset when, my daughter got into the car, I asked her what was wrong, my daughter replied that the friend was taken out of school earlier, by two adults a male and a fat female, we went home, about 45 minutes later a govt plated car appeared, and both the male I spoke to plus the fat female came out, the friend was in the back seat and also came out, visibly upset, I let the friend inside to get the belongings, the fat female demanded to go inside, I asked what the problem was, she refused to tell me, with that I refused her entry to my home, she then became aggressive, to which I just laughed at her, calling her an idiot, the male never made a move on me as I was considerably bigger than him, 20 minutes later they left with the friend, leaving me with a very upset child to comfort.

My daughters' friend then returned later that night, I asked what was going on, the friend said that DCP were going to send her back to the mother and she did not want to go, I asked her as to the current living arrangements, she said they have put her in a safe-house with no supervision, she said that she had spoken to the school councillor that morning, I tried to talk to the harpies the next day but they didn’t return my calls, in the end, I sent an email to the minister that controls these harpies (Robyn McSweeney) complaining as to the actions taken thus far, friend returned to the safe-house.

7 days later 2 harpies arrived on my doorstep at about 10.30am, they were looking for my daughters' friend and demanded entry to my home, I told them that my daughters' friend was not here, try the school, I was then called a liar, then this harpy started with the intimidation caper, this harpy I know as Lisa Devine, she then told me that I have made advances to my daughters' friend and have dealt with her in an improper manner, I said crap and stated that you have no right laying accusations light handily, the other harpy also paid her two cents worth by backing up the other harpy it was an overwieght elderly female kiwi. I then requested that the harpies leave the property, to which they did, they did find my daughters' friend at the safe-house, she did not go to school that day.

I did eventually get the name of the other harpy, Natalie McDonald.

14th August 2009, my daughters' friend was placed on the bus by the afore-mentioned harpies and returned to the mother; my daughters' friend remained in constant contact with me and my daughter by way of SMS messages.

During the 2 weeks that my daughters' friend was in DCP care, she came over each day to eat, washing etc, she clearly was not worried about me at all, when I told her of the accusations she said that, that was not correct at all.

Following the deportation of my daughters' friend, my daughter and I got on with life, we had no more visits by DCP, my daughters' friend was still in communication with both my daughter and myself.

At the end of September 2009, 6 weeks after the deportation of friend, the DCP returned, this time with 3 police officers, I had a mate over for coffee at this time and asked him to listen and observe the antics of these harpies, the harpies, Lisa Devine and Kristina Fraser, bashed on my door, I opened and went outside, the mate took up position and listened in, Lisa Devine, then informed that I have been found guilty and demanded that my my daughter and I attend their cave for a interview as to the allegations, I said, and you need the police to ask do you?, Kristina Fraser then stated, that her staff feel intimidated by me, laughingly, I stated, that her staff are childish and pathetic and it was her staff that have been intimidating to me, with that, one police officer had a huge smirk on his face, I told these harpies that we will be there in 1 hour and not before, I demanded that they leave the property, with that, they and the police left.

The mate heard and saw everything, nor the harpies or the police knew he was there, he said this was total crap.

1 Hour later, my daughter and I went to their cave and was told to wait, yes, they got the police again, during the chat they (Lisa Devine and Kristina Fraser) kept pushing their accusations, I kept stating they are incorrect and why is it now, 6 weeks, after deporting my daughters' friend do you want to discuss it? They never did answer that one, the 2 police officers did nothing other than just stand there, then I threw a huge spanner into the works, I declared to them that when they appeared at my door an hour earlier a mate heard and saw everything, they didn’t like this at all, they then said my daughters' friend was scared of me, I then fucked their day completely, I stated that since the time my daughters' friend was in your care and current to this day, I have received close to 800 SMS messages from her, the last one this morning, this really made them mad, both these harpies, then demanded my phone so they could have the SMS record, I stated no, if you want them that bad then lets take it before a magistrate, they then decided to interview my daughter on her own, I was asked to leave the room, I felt that I had no choice in the matter, considering the police were still present, whilst I was outside the room I could hear my daughter shouting and screaming at them after ten minutes my daughter came out of the room and the interview was terminated without any charges laid, upon leaving their cave, Lisa Devine stated to me in the presence of the police officiers, that she had grave concerns regarding the safety of my daughter and that she had referred the matter to the Esperance detectives, to which my daughter told her to fuck off and get her facts straight first.

My daughter and I later found out that these 2 harpies had actually gone to the school to find and seize my child only to learn that she was home sick, this is why they turned up at our home.

Later that same day, Kristina Fraser contacted me on my phone, again demanding the SMS record, again I stated to her, take it court, then and only then will you get to see them and that be in front of a magistrate, she became belligerent and intimidating, in the end I laughed at it and told it to fuck off.

13 days later, I received a letter from the other harpy, Natalie Mcdonald, dated 6th October 2009, which said;


Dear Victim,
I have taken over case management in relation to the investigation currently underway as to your daughter NAME WITHELD safety in your care. I am aware that you were recently informed of the need for this on 25/09/2009 when you brought NAME WITHELD into the Esperance office as requested.

I have attempted to contact you by telephone, and would like to request that you please contact the Esperance office as soon as possible in order to arrange a meeting time with me. As part of the current investigation, I would like to give you the opportunity to respond to the departments concerns for NAME WITHELD.

Kind regards
Signed Natalie Mcdonald - Case Manager.


I did respond in writing, stating that any further communication will be done with witnesses present of my choosing, said witnesses will have the right to cast their opinion as deemed necessary, please respond in writing - I do not recall ever getting a phone call from this harpy as per her letter above.

I never received a reply from this harpy, Natalie McDonald, as to my letter on this matter, funny thing, in the interrogation; there was no mention as to my my daughters' safety in my care, the other 2 harpies were more interested in the SMS records and accusing me of improper acts with my daughters' friend.

I did show my daughter this letter, my daughter then got on the internet and sent an email of complaint to the minister that controls these harpies (Robyn McSweeney), stating that she was safe and happy and demanding that the harpies (DCP) leave us alone, unfortunately, no reply was received to the email that she had sent.

Due to all this crap by these harpies, things did become very strained between my daughter and myself, she started skipping school and became uncooperative at home, suffice to say that by late October, after a very minor argument, regarding my daughter behaviour, she went to a friends home to calm down, again DCP stepped in, subsequently, she was deported to the other parent in early November 2009, without me being consulted first.

In early December 2009, I received yet again another phone call, this time from Lisa Devine, this time she stated to me that this call was not about my daughters' friend, but about my daughter, I said what is the point, you people have already deported her so there is nothing to discuss is there?You should have discussed this before deporting my daughter shouldn’t you?

This harpy, then turned around and accused me of watching porn and masturbating in front of my daughter and her friends, I said just where the hell do you get off on laying false accusations?

This harpy then asked me if I am denying the accusations, I said yes, totally, this time you lot have gone too far, the harpy then stated she wanted to record my response, i said no, she went ahead and activated the speaker phone at her end, I then terminated the conversation.

I would like to say, that I am not kinky, porn and masturbating does not turn me on at all.

I did not hear again from these harpies until 16th February 2010, again, this time, it was by letter and from Natalie McDonald, regarding my daughter, which said :


Dear Victim,

I am writing to you to confirm the outcome of the investigation undertaken by the Department for Child Protection concerning NAME WITHELD.

The investigation has found that there are reasonable grounds to conclude that NAME WITHELD has been harmed. The investigation has also considered who has harmed her. The department has assessed that you have harmed NAME WITHELD.

As a government agency the Department is required to maintain electronic records of contact with children and families, including allegations and investigations of harm or risk or risk of harm.

These records are confindential and are maintained for case management purposes. They may be accessed if there are further allegations of harm or risk of harm, or when the person assessed to have caused harm to a child has, or continues to have, contact with children. They may also be considered if you apply to work in either paid or unpaid volunteer capacity with children. At the time of applying to work with children, you may be asked to consent to your departmental records being considered.

If you wish to discuss this matter you may contact me on 90832566 between 8.15am and 4.30pm Monday to Friday. If I am not available a message will be taken and i will return your call.
Opportunities for reviewing the Departments decisions are available. I can advise you of these opportunitites when you contact me.

If our discussions does not address your concerns and you wish to speak to someone else, my Team Leader, Kristina Fraser, may be contacted on 90832566.

Kind sincerely
Signed Natalie Mcdonald - Case Manager.


To date, I have not responded to this last letter, what beats me, is how these harpies can make such allegations, I have never laid a hand on my daughter in the whole time she was in my care, these harpies have got to be pulled up and held accountable for their antics.

Clearly, this is a national problem, not just isolated to individual states.

I hope that other people from WA, google DCP or these harpies get to this site and table their respective experiences for all to see.
16th August 2011, just an update, to this day I have never been charged, never been interviewed by police and have not been before a magistrate regarding this entire experience.

Cheers
Hannible (Source : http://forums.altnews.com.au/forums/hannible/my-bad-experience-dcp-west#comment-10107)

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